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Have FOX Got A Better Plan For Marvel Movies Than Marvel Themselves?

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It’s fair to say that FOX have made some mistakes in their Marvel movies.

They turned this guy into a cloud, for God’s sake!

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However while discussing the possibility of a follow-up to this year’s The Wolverine, Hugh Jackman discussed some minor details of his relationship with FOX and they just might be better than Marvel Studio’s own.

“I started with a two-picture deal on the first two [X-Men films], and from that point on, it’s been movie by movie — not just me, but Fox and Jim and everyone,”

There is the argument that not tying their actors into a multi-picture deal would hinder progress and (now that they’re working on a cinematic universe) could cause huge problems should a cast member decide not to reprise a role that is vital to story progression.

On the other hand, signing up to a deal with Marvel Studios seems to amount to actors signing at least a decade of their life away for a spot in as many as seven feature films and even before phase two began we were hearing claims of contract negotiation from maybe players such as Chris Hemsworth and Scarlett Johansson and even some antagonist head-swapping in Iron Man 2 after the Mickey Mouse Corporation got tired of Terrence Howard asking for more money.

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Marvel Studios God, Kevin Feige has described this as “James Bond-ing” it and seems perfectly happy with this as a solution, even discussing the possibility of doing this with Tony Stark for future instalments of the Iron Man franchise now that Robert Downey Jr. has gone cold on the idea of doing anymore (at least for the time being.)

Getting back to the question at hand, Have FOX Got A Better Plan For Marvel Movies Than Marvel Themselves?

Yes.

Or at least they do if this snippet of Hugo Weaving discussing his role as Red Skull is anything to go by.

If for whatever reason you can’t watch the video, this is what he said;

“I think the tendency, with those films, would be to probably not bring a villain back.  They might for The Avengers, but I didn’t think I’d be in Captain America 2 or 3.  I don’t think Red Skull will be there.  And it’s not something I would want to do again.  I’m glad I did it.  I did sign up for a number of pictures and I suppose, contractually, I would be obliged to, if they forced me to, but they wouldn’t want to force someone to do it, if they didn’t want to.”

Red Skull is a huge part of the history of Captain America and having him signed up for multiple pictures obviously shows that Marvel have some plans but would they really want to use an actor who doesn’t want to play the role?

Surely Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D has done enough harm to their reputation without this. What do you think? Are you a fan of the Marvel or the FOX way of working?

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4 Comments

  1. It’s an interesting question. I think Marvel Studios are doing it best but there were some odd growing pains, like Red Skull. I thought it was a bit of a dick move by Weaving to basically publicly say ‘You can make me. But I will not be happy’ as then it’s lose-lose. Clearly they had plans for him you can see that just by the end of the movie. If he had no interest in playing the role longer then why sign in the first place? But I suppose I wasn’t there, and if he’s not comfortable it’s not exactly his fault…hmmm.

    But by doing this multi-deal plan we get a lot of unified storytelling. The X-Men movies jump about a lot in quality and it’s clear that something like Origins was made with no idea what was coming next, and there is nothing that hints at its events in the other movies either. In fact, Origins creates more plot holes and questions than it answered! If with X-Men 1 they mapped out the next few stories and signed deals for everyone I think we’d have had a more consistent final result.

    • Good point, Hugo Weaving is a pro and if asked will no doubt hold his end of the deal but either way, Red Skull wouldn’t be too much trouble to replace due to the big red face.

      I think The Wolverine basically retcon’s Origins completely…

  2. It wasn’t until I watched the end credits for Thor: The Lost World that I found out the villain was played by CHRISTOPHER FUCKING ECCLESTON! After leaving Doctor Who because of, and I quote, “eating a lot of shit” to be involved in a major TV production, a Marvel film was the very last place I expected to see him, what with all their lead actors being contracted until the end of time.

    Which goes to show: sometimes you do a big film, it doesn’t work out, you’re happy to sever ties. But if you’re THAT committed (and they’re paying you enough money), and you love playing the role, why not just sign it over?

  3. I might be in the minority here, but I’m reminded of the old adage “Why can’t we all get along?”. It applies here in so far as you have 2 camps of Marvel movies, FOX and Marvel themselves. And because of this, we, the viewers are being deprived of a potentially awesome universe where Captain America can team up with Spiderman. Iron Man can enlist the Xmen for help against Magneto because his suit makes him weak against Magneto. Honestly, the possibilities are endless but because of politics and metaphorical dick waving on both sides, it seems it will never come to fruition. But I also think that the biggest problem is not the actors, they are part of it, but the biggest issue lies with Writers and Directors.

    In order to keep consistency in storytelling, a movie trilogy or series needs to have the same writer throughout so that characters are fleshed out and remain largely the same and consistent. But also, the director should probably stay the same throughout in order to keep the style the same. Look at The Dark Knight trilogy. However you feel about those movies, you have to agree that they all felt thematically and artistically the same because not only did Christopher Nolan direct all of them, he also kept the same AD’s, art designer, sound designers and editors throughout. This is the kind of thing we don’t see in Marvel movies because they tend to change a lot of the crew for each movie, chief among them writers and directors. A prime example of this would be the Iron Man series. I loved 1, and 3, but they were vastly different movies at the end of the day. Two different directors and two different writers were the reason behind this because apart from Terrence Howard being replaced by Don Cheadle, the cast remained the same (and I never liked Terrence Howard anyway).

    I’ve gone off topic, but I really hope that in later years, we can merge all the Marvel characters under one company and have the superhero movies we deserve, not the ones that they think we need! And also just move everything to TV and do episodic storytelling which will open up possibilities for much greater depth and scope for lesser known characters and villains to get a spotlight.

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